Formulate Recap: 爱豆传媒r Hogg of TravelCenters of America

爱豆传媒r Hogg
Hogg photo by John Sommers II for Transport Topics; TravelCenters-TA-Petro via Facebook

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Earlier this year, as part of our Transport Topics Magazine Event Series, Formulate, we sat down with 爱豆传媒r Hogg, vice president of truck service at TravelCenters of America, to discuss the future of vehicle maintenance.

A recognized leader in the truck service industry serving on numerous boards overlooking technology and maintenance, Hogg provided several insights about where the service industry has been and where it is headed.

爱豆传媒r Hogg



TravelCenters of America

Here are some of the highlights:

Having the EV Maintenance Conversation

It鈥檚 not a secret that the industry is currently shifting to electrification. As fleet operations prepare for a world of EVs, the conversation has also moved into what鈥檚 next, which is maintenance. Hogg noted via his work with the Technology & Maintenance Council that seeds are currently getting sowed for the conversation about EV maintenance.

鈥淵ou鈥檙e going to see a keen focus on this. We are intimately aware that we have to develop a body of work so that fleets have an opportunity and a timely opportunity to be successful maintaining and operating this equipment,鈥 he said. 鈥淥ur goal was to continue the buzz and increase the intensity of it. But at the end of the day, to get all hands on deck so that we can develop, create, and publish the right solutions.鈥

Citing that it鈥檚 a daunting task, Hogg said he and others participating in TMC鈥檚 study groups have worked to niche down each of the segments of EV maintenance.

鈥淚 think you鈥檙e going to see subjects like battery maintenance. That鈥檚 a big deal. You know, how we鈥檙e going to maintain these batteries? What are we going to do with these batteries at the end of their life?鈥 he explained. 鈥淭hat is an issue we have to tackle now and not wait till we get five to 10 years down the road.鈥

爱豆传媒r Hogg

While electric vehicles are the hot topic, diesel remains the dominant source for fleets. (TravelCenters of America)

Hogg also noted that the industry should establish protocols on how to keep technicians and other personnel safe.

鈥淲e have to make sure everybody鈥檚 safe when they鈥檙e interfacing with this equipment,鈥 he said. 鈥淲e also have operational efficiencies. We have learned right away that the driver can make or break the life of the battery when it鈥檚 in motion.鈥

鈥淭here鈥檚 a long list of what I call critical subjects that we need to study and we need to make sure we understand the Recommended Practices,鈥 Hogg continued. 鈥淭hen, there鈥檚 another list, what I probably call 鈥楽tage Two,鈥 and then beyond that. There鈥檚 a huge body of work. I think it鈥檚 going to keep TMC and people like myself and [the] study groups busy for maybe even years to come.鈥

The Development of Diesel Engine Repair

In the 40-plus years Hogg has been in the trucking industry, he understands that even with the new dawn of electric vehicles, diesel is still king.

鈥淲e are certainly seeing the evolution of how we maintain diesel engines, for sure. We鈥檙e going to be keeping that equipment running for years to come,鈥 he said. 鈥淚 don鈥檛 [have] the magic ball, but I do believe there鈥檚 going to be a phasing out of what we know the diesel engine will be like over the next several years. Somebody still must maintain the equipment and it鈥檚 still going to dominate the market.鈥

Hogg contended that much knowledge would be gained from the technology and strategies deployed from EV equipment.

鈥淲e鈥檙e going to translate some of that learning over to the current diesel engine platform. You鈥檙e likely to see some changes in the drive trend,鈥 he said. 鈥淭hat may very well be adapted somewhat from the whole EV strategy. I think what you鈥檙e going to see is we鈥檙e learning as we go and we鈥檙e starting to realize that some of this technology we can use on the existing diesel platform and make it more efficient.鈥

Watch more of this conversation HERE.

Formulate is part of the Transport Topics Magazine Event Series, which brings to life the people and conversations behind trucking maintenance and technology. The quarterly event series gives leaders in maintenance and technology an opportunity to reexamine their understanding of the industry, and redefine their thinking about the state of trucking tech and modern maintenance shops.

From that point, Hogg expanded, citing segments from battery technology to the research and development that OEMs, developers and engineers can leverage to have a creative impact to the more conventional chassis.

鈥淔or the most part, we鈥檙e going to get smarter, we鈥檙e going to have more data. We鈥檙e going to see more virtual type of data coming over so we can make decisions hopefully in a timely way so we can increase the uptime. At the end of day, it鈥檚 all about uptime,鈥 he explained. 鈥淪o, if we can get information, whether it鈥檚 a service provider, a dealer, or fleet shop, regardless of where you fit within the industry, it can help us be prepared to keep that equipment running and get that equipment up sooner.

鈥淚f it does happen to have a defect, I think what you鈥檙e going to see is more remote type of troubleshooting diagnostics,鈥 Hogg continued. 鈥淵ou鈥檙e going to see maybe improved lead times on parts and logistics and maybe better leveraging the workflow in the physical base. And if we can preempt that, it鈥檚 just going to make everything better. I think that will translate to the diesel engine as well.鈥

Outsourcing Versus In-House Maintenance

In March, Hogg was part of a learning session about the challenges of choosing between in-house maintenance and outsourcing at American Trucking Associations鈥 Technology & Maintenance Council 2022 annual meeting. He said the experience was overwhelming in the sense that outsourcing was a subject that was heavily on the mind of industry leaders. Hogg noted that partnerships have their place, and if the industry can understand the needs are from a dealer and fleet perspective that it will go a long way in improving the skills of the technician in the long term.

鈥淭here are things like trying to find technicians and retain those technicians, but that鈥檚 only part of the challenge. You have to develop them and the skills of your workforce and technicians must evolve with the technology,鈥 he explained. 鈥淔leets are looking for ways to do that and if they can do that with good partners, dealers, service providers and those independents out there, it makes us all better.鈥

In choosing in-house or outsourcing, Hogg said that the single focus for the service provider to fleet manager is uptime.

鈥淚 think that鈥檚 going to benefit the consumer who鈥檚 really trying to buy a gallon of milk, and may not necessarily understand everything that goes into getting that product into the store,鈥 he said. 鈥淲e can help control what the end user is paying for that gallon of milk. I think you鈥檙e going to see an extreme focus on partnerships out there between fleets and those that provide service and help them keep those vehicles running.鈥

Changing Landscape of Maintenance

Hogg also explained that while the era of the wrench socket may be replaced with a tablet, that can also translate to better partnerships and better fleet maintenance.

鈥淭here was a time when, for example, you can have a technician and they may be a bumper-to-bumper鈥 from the front to the rear of the vehicle. That鈥檚 probably not the case today,鈥 he said. 鈥淲e might want to think we鈥檙e like that, but probably we鈥檙e stronger in certain areas than we are in others.鈥

Hogg continued that partnerships with suppliers and parts manufacturers in the beginning of EVs can only help to strengthen preventative maintenance.

鈥淲e have great fleets that we do business with and we try to keep an open line of communication so that we understand what they need and we try to deliver that. That goes both ways,鈥 he said. 鈥淚 really like the way fleets will come to service providers and dealers, sit down and talk about what they need so that we work together to find the right solution to keep that vehicle up and running. I think that is the key as we go forward.鈥